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    Dreamlife (premium) WH and possible triggerbot

    Very clever to make an early post accusing others of WH

    https://forums.saigns.de/showthread....cheater-in-CSS

    Dont know how he has got away with this blatant WH for so long.

    1. No one ,and i mean no one holds crosshair to the right of the gap playing T side at double doors on mid start of round.

    2.Watch how he adjusts crosshair upwards for MD 900 before he jumped.

    3. There is a slight shake in the crosshair on firing only at double doors (possible trigger bot toggle)

    There are many other points in the demo but i will leave it up to the admins, who are from what i see very professional.

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by H4mmy View Post
    Very clever to make an early post accusing others of WH

    https://forums.saigns.de/showthread....cheater-in-CSS

    Dont know how he has got away with this blatant WH for so long.

    1. No one ,and i mean no one holds crosshair to the right of the gap playing T side at double doors on mid start of round.

    2.Watch how he adjusts crosshair upwards for MD 900 before he jumped.

    3. There is a slight shake in the crosshair on firing only at double doors (possible trigger bot toggle)

    There are many other points in the demo but i will leave it up to the admins, who are from what i see very professional.

    Thank you

    dreamlife1.dem
    Firstly, this is not a properly formulated demo, see https://forums.saigns.de/showthread....nehmen-Deu-Eng

    We need to see the server signature and player list from the status/5tatus command in the console. There is nothing to identify the player you claim is cheating.

    Secondly, I see no clear evidence of a wall hack or other kind of cheat. There are no kills through doors/crates and the flick of the wrist is common when using the AWP, especially noticeable when they alter the mouse sensitivity while scoping (which is clear here). There are also ample instances where they are clearly not using a wall hack: failing to know that there are players coming when they would see them in a wall hack.

    Also (and FYI), you can turn off the 'fire in the hole' notifications and sounds by entering the word settings in game chat and find the options in the menu you will see.
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    Apologies for that, you can see im new here. Just show me a tier 1 or 2 awper that pre aims dust 2 mid doors on the right side, instead of the left edge. Why would you deny maximum reaction time? The Crosshair shake is During the shot (not a flick)and only occurs early on when shooting at gap in double doors, so toggling both WH and trigger bot is possible and the rest of the shots are clean.
    Never watched any game where the awper holds crosshair on right side of gap start of round hoping to make the shot as they cross doors.
    That fact alone should ring alarm bells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H4mmy View Post
    Apologies for that, you can see im new here. Just show me a tier 1 or 2 awper that pre aims dust 2 mid doors on the right side, instead of the left edge. Why would you deny maximum reaction time? The Crosshair shake is During the shot (not a flick)and only occurs early on when shooting at gap in double doors, so toggling both WH and trigger bot is possible and the rest of the shots are clean.
    Never watched any game where the awper holds crosshair on right side of gap start of round hoping to make the shot as they cross doors.
    That fact alone should ring alarm bells.
    I have not observed any crosshair shake, I suggest replaying at c.20% speed. There is also reasoning for aiming where he does.

    Anything is possible, but we do not deal with 'the possible' in bans, we deal with clear evidence.
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    I just uploaded a second demo, i initially didnt watch to the end because i wanted a demo where he was using awp,but this demo did in fact have it, it is near the end and its only one shot but to me its clear the shot is impossible without wall hack as you can clearly see the position of the crosshair is on the right edge of the gap at double doors mid at the perfect level for the shot, the ct could have crossed higher or crossed lower, Dreamlife would not know that even with Radar, it is not that precise .So what you have is perfect placement on the right side of gap for the shot,no flick or drag of the mouse, just a pure reaction shot. So i spent last night looking through lots of matches where pro players (including Zywoo and monesy)were trying that shot on Dust 2. I could not find a single example of any awper holding crosshair on right edge of gap.
    Why is that you ask, because the reaction time required for the shot is close to zero, far below what is humanly possible. Maybe he got lucky huh, maybe he is just better than monesy or zywoo, who knows.
    All i am really hoping for by posting this is you take a look at him if he returns.
    If i had 1 per cent doubt i would never have made the post, i also spent a lot of time spectating him without making a demo. He makes that gap shot 2 or 3 times a round. If he then turns off WH or triggerbot after that does not matter.
    Finally just to be clear that you really understand my point ,NO AWPER and i do mean NO AWPER EVER in the history of counterstrike
    for the last 24 years that i could see Holds crosshair to the RIGHT edge of the gap at double doors hoping to make the shot at ct crossing.
    "There is also reasoning for aiming where he does."

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    Quote Originally Posted by H4mmy View Post
    I just uploaded a second demo, i initially didnt watch to the end because i wanted a demo where he was using awp,but this demo did in fact have it, it is near the end and its only one shot but to me its clear the shot is impossible without wall hack as you can clearly see the position of the crosshair is on the right edge of the gap at double doors mid at the perfect level for the shot, the ct could have crossed higher or crossed lower, Dreamlife would not know that even with Radar, it is not that precise .So what you have is perfect placement on the right side of gap for the shot,no flick or drag of the mouse, just a pure reaction shot. So i spent last night looking through lots of matches where pro players (including Zywoo and monesy)were trying that shot on Dust 2. I could not find a single example of any awper holding crosshair on right edge of gap.
    Why is that you ask, because the reaction time required for the shot is close to zero, far below what is humanly possible. Maybe he got lucky huh, maybe he is just better than monesy or zywoo, who knows.
    All i am really hoping for by posting this is you take a look at him if he returns.
    If i had 1 per cent doubt i would never have made the post, i also spent a lot of time spectating him without making a demo. He makes that gap shot 2 or 3 times a round. If he then turns off WH or triggerbot after that does not matter.
    Finally just to be clear that you really understand my point ,NO AWPER and i do mean NO AWPER EVER in the history of counterstrike
    for the last 24 years that i could see Holds crosshair to the RIGHT edge of the gap at double doors hoping to make the shot at ct crossing.
    "There is also reasoning for aiming where he does."
    hey where is the second demo, I would like to take a look at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by H4mmy View Post
    I just uploaded a second demo, i initially didnt watch to the end because i wanted a demo where he was using awp,but this demo did in fact have it, it is near the end and its only one shot but to me its clear the shot is impossible without wall hack as you can clearly see the position of the crosshair is on the right edge of the gap at double doors mid at the perfect level for the shot, the ct could have crossed higher or crossed lower, Dreamlife would not know that even with Radar, it is not that precise .So what you have is perfect placement on the right side of gap for the shot,no flick or drag of the mouse, just a pure reaction shot. So i spent last night looking through lots of matches where pro players (including Zywoo and monesy)were trying that shot on Dust 2. I could not find a single example of any awper holding crosshair on right edge of gap.
    Why is that you ask, because the reaction time required for the shot is close to zero, far below what is humanly possible. Maybe he got lucky huh, maybe he is just better than monesy or zywoo, who knows.
    All i am really hoping for by posting this is you take a look at him if he returns.
    If i had 1 per cent doubt i would never have made the post, i also spent a lot of time spectating him without making a demo. He makes that gap shot 2 or 3 times a round. If he then turns off WH or triggerbot after that does not matter.
    Finally just to be clear that you really understand my point ,NO AWPER and i do mean NO AWPER EVER in the history of counterstrike
    for the last 24 years that i could see Holds crosshair to the RIGHT edge of the gap at double doors hoping to make the shot at ct crossing.
    "There is also reasoning for aiming where he does."
    hey where is the second demo, I would like to take a look at it

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    its on the first post
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    hi

    I don't see anything in the demo that could give us a reason to ban this player.Even if only one scene is mentioned here that is not enough for me to ban this player.We don't ban players here for just one scene. There must be multiple scenes in the demo.Furthermore no status command was entered in the console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H4mmy View Post
    its on the first post
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    Again, nothing there that would fit the criteria for a wall hack.

    It is obvious that he aims to the right of the opening (in both demos) to target the opposition sniper, that is where they position themselves consistently.
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    Hi

    All i asked is to take a look at the player if he returns, i clearly said that in my 3rd post, i am not an admin and yes the demos are short.

    If he returns i will get better demos, use status command

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